Subsequently, we gathered a second time in the village of Isfin, at the residence of the Chief Hasan, may God grant him success. That took place in the month of Shawwal in the year six hundred and eighty-five (685 AH), where a group of the brethren gathered with us, may God the Exalted protect them. Present with us was a man from among the brethren called Ali ibn Mansur al-Mu'addib, who was teaching their children calligraphy, and he was on that day the youngest of us in age [yet the greatest of us in understanding and the most perceptive of us in knowledge]1 . Rabiah had related to him on my authority that I had supposedly invalidated the manifestation and negated the form, telling him: "He stated that the seven luminous ones are distinct from the seven human ones." Because of this, he held a great grievance against me.
When we gathered, he questioned me about what had transpired between us and what response I held regarding that matter. So, I expounded for him the true meaning of my words and how I sustained that position,