I said: "What about the marble slab (al-rukhāmah)?" He said: "Umm Salamah."

I said: "So what is the stone (al-ḥajar)?" He said: "Abu Talib."

I said: "So what is the Black Stone (al-ḥajar al-aswad)?" He said: "It is Al-Miqdad, and the wall extended over the stone is Ja'far, and the step upon which one enters the House is the Door."

I said: "So tell me about the Station of Abraham (maqām Ibrāhīm)?" He said: "Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr."

I said: "So what about as-Safa and al-Marwah?" He said: "The two orphans."

I said: "The well of Zamzam?" He said: "The Name, and it is also said that Umm Salamah sealed (zamma) the knowledge."

I said: "Tell me about Al-Mash'ar al-Haram (The Sacred Monument)?" He said: "The knowledge of the divine kingdom."