And whoever believes in God, it is obligatory for him to know the Truth with its laws and its branches."

I said: "So what is the meaning of the Sacred House of God?"

He said: "God does not have a house. Rather, it is the house of the Veil, Muhammad, in whom the Prophet appeared through speech."

I said: "So tell me about the two thresholds?"

He said: "They are the persons of the two Has."

I said: "So what about the knocker on the door?" He said: "Ja'far ibn Abi Talib."

I said: "What is the door?" He said: "The person of the Sin."

I said: "The socket into which the knocker falls?" He said: "Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya."

I said: "So what is the lock?" He said: "The person of Ali ibn al-Husayn, who was killed at Karbala ('Ali al-Akbar')."